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Thomas was born on 19th April 1805 and baptised on 26th May 1805 in Thornbury.  He was the son of John Nelmes, a pig butcher and his wife, Hannah.  John died aged 48 and was buried on 11th December 1818 in the churchyard of St Mary's in Thornbury in the same grave as William and Hannah Reeves.  It is possible that these were Hannah's parents. Hannah re-married in 1826 - her second husband was George Motley.

Thomas became a pork butcher he is listed in the 1830 Thornbury Directory.  On 19th January 1828, he married Harriett Hussey.  They had several children in Thornbury: George who was born on 24th April 1828 and baptised at the Independent Chapel in Thornbury on 1st March 1829, Harriett born about 1829, Eliza born about 1831, Mary Anne born about 1832 and John Hussey born about 1834, all four of whom were baptised on 26th October 1834, Thomas baptised on 12th June 1836, Henry born October 4th 1838 and Matilda Nelmes born October 28th 1839.

The 1840 Tithe Map shows Thomas as owning Plot 207 located at the bottom of St Mary Street on its junction with St John Street.  This plot covers the area now occupied by The Plough Inn - there were no buildings where Trayhurns, the butchers were later to occupy.  The plot was described as a house yard and garden occupied by Ezra Amos.  It appears that Thomas Nelmes had moved to Bristol which is where he and the family were living in the 1841 census.  Thomas and Harriett had another son, Samuel on January 25th 1843.   The family moved back to Thornbury and in 1847 Thomas tried to sell the bacon-curing business  at St Mary Street.

 The advert on the left is interesting because it refers to a 'newly-built detached shop, fronting the Gloucester Road' which was included in the sale.  This clearly refers to the shop on the corner of St John Street and St Mary Street which we associate with the Trayhurn family.  The implication of the word 'detached' implies that the house (later to be called 1 St Mary Street) which lies between the shop and The Plough had not been built - and this is confirmed by the reference 'part of the ground having good frontage to the street presents an eligible site for Building'.

An indenture dated 23rd June 1848 shows that Thomas sold the shop to George Thomas for £200. The indenture mentions that a house was being erected on the land adjoining the shop.  Thomas retained the other house and his pig business which we believe to have been located at what we now know as The Plough.

The 1851 census shows that Thomas Nelmes was living in what we believe could be The Plough, or a building on the site of what we now know as The Plough.  The census shows him as a pig butcher, but the 1849 Hunt & Co. directory shows Thomas was also a beer retailer.  This might suggest that Thomas was running a pig butcher business and a beerhouse from the premises which came to be the Plough.  At the time of the 1851 census Thomas and Harriet are living in St Mary Street with their sons, Thomas and Henry.  Curiously their daughter, Harriett is living in Castle Street where she is described as a 21 year old unmarried school teacher who was living with her sister Mary who was 18 years old and her assistant. They lived with their brother Samuel aged 8 and they seemed to be running a little school as they were other unrelated children listed as living in the house.

In August 1854 Thomas tried again to sell his remaining property in St Mary Street.  The advert on the left refers to the part of his property which we now know as being The Plough Inn. 

It is interesting to note that the advert refers to the fact that 'the business of pig butcher and brewer had been successfully carried out on the premises for many years'.  The 1849 Hunt & Co. directory lists Thomas as a beer retailer.  This might suggest that Thomas was running a pig butcher business and a beerhouse from the premises which came to be the Plough.

This time Thomas appears to have sold the property to Abraham Cole.  Thomas's mother Hannah Motley died March 18th 1859.  By the 1861 census, Thomas and Harriet were living in 31 Crown Street, Glasgow in Scotland.  Thomas was aged 55 and Harriett aged 60.

We don't know why Thomas and Harriett moved to Scotland or what happened to after 1861.  We know that Harriett died in Pasadena in California on 24th December 1891 in her 92nd year.  She was described as the widow of Thomas Nelmes of Thornbury, Gloucestershire.

We are indebted to Becky Croston who has sent us details of her family's history, including extracts from a family Bible which showed dates for various births and deaths. We have used these in the following facts about the children of Thomas and Harriett Nelmes;

The Children

George - in 1861 census George was living in Bath Buildings, Bristol and working as a printer's traveller.  He was living with his sons, George A W aged 8 and William H aged 7, both born in Thornbury.  There is no sign of his wife.  George married Mary Eliza Cole in Chipping Sodbury on July 3rd 1851.  Mary Eliza was the daughter of Rice Cole.  Their children included George Adolphus William born January 1853 in Thornbury and William Henry born in Thornbury on February 25th 1854.  The rest of their children were born in Bristol.  they were Alfred Ernest (1856), Alfred Hussey (1857), Arthur Hussey, Amelia Eliza, Ada Alice (1862) and Louisa Eliza (1864).

Harriett - in the 1851 census, she was living at 3 Castle Street.  She was described as a 21 year old unmarried school teacher who was living with her sister Mary who was 18 years old and her assistant.  They lived with their brother Samuel aged 8.  There are also some unrelated children, 7 year old boy Lacy Ford, 7 year old Sarah Screen and a 4 year old who we believe was called William Workman.  From this it would appear that Harriett is running a small school on the premises.

By 1861 Harriett was a teacher at the girls' department of an orphanage which was in the district of St Andrew's in Bristol.   Possibly this is one of the Muller homes.  The story of the George Muller Foundation is an interesting one and he was responsible for setting up five large homes for children in the Ashley Down area which accommodated an astonishing 2,000 poor children.

Harriett Nelmes was buried at what is now called the United Reformed Church in Thornbury.  She died  aged 34 on 3rd September 1863.

Henry and Samuel - the 1861 census shows Henry and Samuel are living in Nicholas Street, Bristol.  Henry was a jeweller and Samuel was a clerk in an insurance office.

John Hussey Nelmes died March 31st 1839 aged four years.

Matilda Nelmes died March 21st 1840 aged five months.

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